These are some really nice shoes. They can be used for casual wear but we found that some people do like wearing them for sparring. The shoe is quite flexible and can be bend in half. Men, when sizing them, we would say go 2 sizes up. They do run small. Women, you may want to go the opposite. Lets say for instance you are a size 7.5 women, they would be a 9 men. So if you want a size 7.5 women, go for a size 6 men. For the price and all, we think that these are a great deal for what you are getting. The only cons we found was the sizing, but if you go by what we recommend, and this is based off of people we listen to, you will be happy with these for sure. Here is what you get. And yea, they should usually come in a pretty pink bag. That’s just wicked eh.